Thursday, 26 March 2009
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SCIENCE WINS, BITCHES!
Today was the vote on science standards down in Texas and we won...and by "won" I mean their bullshit "strengths and weaknesses" clause came down to a 7-7 tie, but they needed an actual victory to include it. All the same, we've successful protected the youth of Texas from creationist loon Don McLeroy and his cohorts who share his belief in talking snakes and his utter ignorance of science.
The Texas Freedom Network live-blogged it and Phil Plait has a smashing write-up:SCIENCE WINS IN TEXAS! Barely...Well creationists, stick that in your straw and suck it.Incredible news out of Texas: creationists have lost a big battle to destroy science education in the Lone Star State!
The State Board of Education voted on the science standards — the list of basic scientific knowledge students should have at various grade levels, like knowing that atoms are the basic building blocks of matter, the Earth goes around the Sun, and — say — evolution is the basic and most fundamental aspect upon which all of modern biology is based.
Creationists on the board (and there are many) tried to water down the standards by creating a phony baloney "strengths and weaknesses" amendment, a totally bogus and arbitrary rule that says that teachers have to point out where a theory has faults. They did this specifically to weaken the teaching of evolution in biology classes. They don’t actually care if the students get a solid education on the fact of evolution, they only care to tear down real science and replace it with Biblical literalism.
And they failed. According to the fantastic science-based Texas Freedom Network, which has been live-blogging the vote, the creationist amendment lost in a 7-7 vote. They could not add the amendment without an actual victory, so the tie means the garbage amendment goes down.
But before you dance in the streets, have a mind that the vote was tied 7-7. In other words, half the people on the Texas State School Board of Education thought it was fine and dandy that evolution, a foundation of modern science and shown to be fact beyond reasonable doubt, be taught as being weak and flawed.
So once again, we see that creationists have lost, but we also know that they will never, ever admit defeat. Remember, their entire outlook on life is not based on reality, but dogma, and so they cannot rest, cannot stop, without shattering their whole worldview.
So as always, this is not over, despite this advance. It’s a victory for the students of Texas and for reality, but the war will rage on.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again (and I’m not the first): the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Stay sharp, Texas. They’ll regroup. Bet on it.
[UPDATE: TFN notes that a final vote will come Friday on all the standards, so even this chapter of the battle isn’t over yet. Stay Tuned.]
It does not speak well of mankind, and it especially does not speak well of Americans, that the obvious must be cited and fought for so fiercely or so frequently...only to wind up with a narrow victory. The problem is that people are just stupid. Not only are they stupid, but because knowledge is much harder than fantasy and going with your gut, they find "explanations" that are easy to understand and pretend that avoiding the evidence through faith is better than learning, so they make sure they stay comfortably (and pretentiously) stupid. The next time they demand that you respect that, promptly proceed to demolish them with logic and mock them back to the stone age.
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If you were a chick, and I wasn't already taken, I'd ask you to marry me. Seriously. And you wouldn't even have to be very good-looking at all. I'll take brains and personality over looks any day.
Keep up the good fight.
@In_Reason_I_Trust - Well, I'm a chick! ;D
Omfg, I come from Texas too... I'm so happy to hear this, but at the same time so appalled...
I was reading this briefly earlier today but never got to finish it. Good thing. Keep the bible thumping behind church doors and out of schools.
My excitement is tempered by the fact that the vote was a tie... (shudders)
For the record, talking snakes would be very cool.
Perhaps, Mr. Don McLeroy speaks parseltongue?
Haha, thank goodness.
@storiesandsinker - Talking snakes would actually trump regular snakes as creepily evil. It;s bad enough they slither around, stare at us with their beady snake eyes, tasting the air to see if they can eat us. Talking with a lisp. AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm taken, but I'd wed thee.
Not good enough. The next time creationist bullshit shows up in the public schools, passing as science, it should be voted out with a more overwhelming majority. Good post.
@In_Reason_I_Trust - @haloed -
Holy cow, could you guys move to Missouri (and become a woman, in IRIT's case)? I can't get a date for the life of me here. :P They all know I'm a heretic, I think, and nobody finds that sexy.
JT
Meh this isn't about science. It's about two groups of jackoffs who hate each other and want nothing less than to indoctrinate each other's children.
Doesn't matter if you believe in evolution inteligent design or the flying speghetti monster no one really won there.
@bosefius - I don't know. I have a flying lizard and I would pay to get him to talk.
The fact that one person voted for this is a loss. The fact that there are 7 and it was tied 7-7 shows just how militant the theocratic right is and their disregard for the constitution. They will never quit.
Good post! I don't understand why so many people think believing in God and science go against each other. It's all very simple if you can come to accept evolution as a tool of God's creation. (God works through evolution.) I am a Christian but I don't believe Bible too literally because the fact is Bible was written by human beings. God's seven days are not necessarily the seven days we know of... Even the Pope John Paul II and the Catholic church accepted the idea of evolution as a scientific fact by saying that "evolution is more than just a theory" way back in October 23, 1996. I believe in God but I don't necessarily believe in religion nor the religious institutions. I am glad this thing passed in the state of Texas but I am also appalled that so many people believe in creationism literally...
@Zerowing21 - Move to Canada, specifically my town. Most anyone who's crazy religious are disowned. Even people who are like "I LOVE THE BIBLE" we stare at sideways. At least my group of friends.
NO BIBLE THUMPERS HERE
@puffysheep - Thanks for the comment and for sharing my view of the shennanigans in Texas.
However, I disagree with you when you say that science and reason are compatible. Click here for an explanation.
Thanks for swinging by,
JT
@nidan - Still, there is somewhat of a difference between indoctrinating kids with highly supported pieces of knowledge that has a very vital and practical application in society today and hearsay.
@haloed - I've been to Canada, and I loved it. Don't tempt me. ;)
JT
@Zerowing21 - Come back. COME BACK :D
@drung888 - Only if you believe you made facts are more supported than the other side. If you looked at it from the othersides point of view then you see things differently.
And thats the basis of the dispute. Both sides believe their ideas are fact and will argue fight and bitch to the death that their view is FACT. Further they believe that if you don't except their view as fact then you must be stupid.
(Well ultra religious believe you must be a heathen. But if you strip the labels away they mean basically the same thing. "inferior")
Sorry I don't buy that theory. Call me what ever names you wish, but you do so only because you know you're full of bull.
@haloed - That sounds as sad and limited as those towns in Georgia that are not only all one religion but only one denomination of religious. Sure the Bible thumpers are a nusence, and drive us nuts from time to time, but you don't know what you're missing by not having any variety.
@nidan - Yes, it does matter. There is science and there is pseudoscience. The so-called notion of "indoctrination" is an excuse to try and equate the two.
@nidan - Variety? That's no excuse to bring in pseudoscience into the classroom. Eg: If I wanted "variety" in my chemistry class, why not bring in alchemy? If I wanted "variety" in my astronomy class, why not bring in astrology? If I wanted "variety" in my geography class, why not bring in flat-earth pseudoscience?
The problem that many people fail to grasp is that science is NOT, and has never been, a democratic entity. Theories are not chosen on the basis of popular opinion but rather on the basis of their merits or demerits. In essence, I'm saying that science operates as a meritocracy.
Example: If I had a population of 1000, and asked them to vote on the gender of a pet hamster, does the vote actually CHANGE the hamster's gender? No. Even if 999 voted male and 1 voted female, the hamster will not change to a male gender simply because of popular opinion. If 999 vote male and the hamster is actually female, then who would you trust? The 999 who voted male, or the guy who pointed out that the hamster is pregnant?
@QuantumStorm - Bull!!! Either way you are teaching children to believe in one of two things that their are about equal amounts of evedence for as though that assertion were an undeniable fact.
Learning however is about opening up minds to countless possibilities and training them how to find answers for themselves in an unbiased way.
@nidan - That's different, it has legs.
I have issues with snakes